Comments on: Don’t trust your feelings because they will lie to you. http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/ I'm Rob Jones, I Exist and I Can Prove It Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:15:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-222 Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:15:03 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-222 I understand. I understand.

]]> By: Flirting Amy http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-215 Flirting Amy Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:33:00 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-215 I don't agree with not trusting my feelings. That's one thing I have. A lot of feelings. It's because of my feelings or a feeling I might get about a person whether to trust that person or not. I am reminded of when I was a child and the feeling my mother got about the owner of my roller skating team. He wanted to take my sister and I to see the movie "Savannah Smiles". My mom had a bad feeling about him and told him no to his offer. A few weeks later, he was in the newspaper having molested some little girls. I WILL teach my children to TRUST THEIR FEELINGS. What ever that is, it will be. I don’t agree with not trusting my feelings. That’s one thing I have. A lot of feelings. It’s because of my feelings or a feeling I might get about a person whether to trust that person or not. I am reminded of when I was a child and the feeling my mother got about the owner of my roller skating team. He wanted to take my sister and I to see the movie “Savannah Smiles”. My mom had a bad feeling about him and told him no to his offer. A few weeks later, he was in the newspaper having molested some little girls. I WILL teach my children to TRUST THEIR FEELINGS. What ever that is, it will be.

]]> By: will http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-188 will Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:37:06 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-188 i personally have had many prayers answered. specific, absolute, no doubt about it answered. I have them written in a journal to prove it. on the other side, I have many prayers still hanging out there somewhere. as for finding God outside of feelings, I fight to have no emotional connections to my faith. That is hard considering some of my life experiences. thankfully, when I put all emotion aside - God is still as prevalent and relevant as ever. I do have to argue against believing your emotions and feelings will lie to you. I know that is not your intention but feelings and emotions are what drive us to love, care for, hate, nurture, etc. life is not life without feeling. (sorry for all the late comments on old posts...just getting to know you) i personally have had many prayers answered. specific, absolute, no doubt about it answered. I have them written in a journal to prove it.

on the other side, I have many prayers still hanging out there somewhere.

as for finding God outside of feelings, I fight to have no emotional connections to my faith. That is hard considering some of my life experiences. thankfully, when I put all emotion aside – God is still as prevalent and relevant as ever.

I do have to argue against believing your emotions and feelings will lie to you. I know that is not your intention but feelings and emotions are what drive us to love, care for, hate, nurture, etc. life is not life without feeling.

(sorry for all the late comments on old posts…just getting to know you)

]]> By: Anneka http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-156 Anneka Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:28:23 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-156 why is it you have to have proof for everything you live by,it is no coincidence people believe the same things,i hav never been told to go to church or made to by the time i was 13 i made my own decision as do millions of other people,you have no proof there is no god.you said that due to not having prayers answered and things weren't the way you hoped that it was evidence god was not real.a relationship is about communication you dont just go to your friends when you want something and you dont turn away when you dont get a yes,i talk to god about everythin not just to ask him for things i dont pray because its the thing to do, its not about religion its a relationship.but hey u no that. well im not gona change because im sure of who i am and of the god i serve and no one not my pastor nor my parents have anythin to do with that,i made the descision and im one of the ones who wont let it go. why is it you have to have proof for everything you live by,it is no coincidence people believe the same things,i hav never been told to go to church or made to by the time i was 13 i made my own decision as do millions of other people,you have no proof there is no god.you said that due to not having prayers answered and things weren’t the way you hoped that it was evidence god was not real.a relationship is about communication you dont just go to your friends when you want something and you dont turn away when you dont get a yes,i talk to god about everythin not just to ask him for things i dont pray because its the thing to do, its not about religion its a relationship.but hey u no that. well im not gona change because im sure of who i am and of the god i serve and no one not my pastor nor my parents have anythin to do with that,i made the descision and im one of the ones who wont let it go.

]]> By: Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-155 Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:43:50 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-155 Re: Anneka. You believe in something that there is no proof of. And you also believe in something that is common to the area that you live. You would believe in a different god if you had been born in Egypt. You simply believe in the same thing that the majority of the people around you believe. Why don't you believe in Allah? Because you weren't born where those people believe that. Why don't you believe in Thor? Because nobody believes in Thor anymore. You are a product of your environment and your environment tells you imaginary things are real. You have no proof of what you believe and neither do they. If there were some kind of proof maybe everyone would believe the same thing. But it doesn't exist. Would you have faith that a witch doctor could save your child? Unlikely. Your faith is only useful when you need it to be. You don't apply it to anything else in your life. You're hurting yourself and others when you spread the lies of God and the Bible. Re: Anneka. You believe in something that there is no proof of. And you also believe in something that is common to the area that you live. You would believe in a different god if you had been born in Egypt. You simply believe in the same thing that the majority of the people around you believe.

Why don’t you believe in Allah? Because you weren’t born where those people believe that.

Why don’t you believe in Thor? Because nobody believes in Thor anymore.

You are a product of your environment and your environment tells you imaginary things are real.

You have no proof of what you believe and neither do they. If there were some kind of proof maybe everyone would believe the same thing. But it doesn’t exist.

Would you have faith that a witch doctor could save your child? Unlikely. Your faith is only useful when you need it to be. You don’t apply it to anything else in your life.

You’re hurting yourself and others when you spread the lies of God and the Bible.

]]> By: Anneka http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-154 Anneka Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:26:48 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-154 ive read the first entry,and i can simpathise,i have been where you are,i went through a few months thinkin i dont believe in any of this and really felt out of it that it was made up like seriously felt it wasnt right,and i also lost a good friend of mine who i was about to start dating a couple of years ago,he was knocked into the sea by a freak wave n i was devasted..n believed in faith moving mountains that he would stil be alive and prayed soo so strongly,but they found his body 2 weeks later.he was a young christian man only 24 years old n died on new years eve.but god didnt answer my prayer i had no answer and was very angry with god,and i still question things,i cant count how many prayers iv had unanswered and i wont bother to many iv prayed. and i continue to trust and believe in god and you may think theres no logic in it but you do things because you want to and have no reason sometimes.you could do something you want to knowing it would hurt you in the long term but do it anyway..wheres the logic in that? logistically you shouldnt want to ride rollercoasters because they are potentially dangerous but you do it anyway because they are good and you want to take the risk because the risk brings benefits. i dont hav to do anything but i do things as best i can because i want to please god,i stil live a fruitful life with friends, boyfriends, family n so on. but ye im sorted thanks! ive read the first entry,and i can simpathise,i have been where you are,i went through a few months thinkin i dont believe in any of this and really felt out of it that it was made up like seriously felt it wasnt right,and i also lost a good friend of mine who i was about to start dating a couple of years ago,he was knocked into the sea by a freak wave n i was devasted..n believed in faith moving mountains that he would stil be alive and prayed soo so strongly,but they found his body 2 weeks later.he was a young christian man only 24 years old n died on new years eve.but god didnt answer my prayer i had no answer and was very angry with god,and i still question things,i cant count how many prayers iv had unanswered and i wont bother to many iv prayed.
and i continue to trust and believe in god and you may think theres no logic in it but you do things because you want to and have no reason sometimes.you could do something you want to knowing it would hurt you in the long term but do it anyway..wheres the logic in that? logistically you shouldnt want to ride rollercoasters because they are potentially dangerous but you do it anyway because they are good and you want to take the risk because the risk brings benefits. i dont hav to do anything but i do things as best i can because i want to please god,i stil live a fruitful life with friends, boyfriends, family n so on.
but ye im sorted thanks!

]]> By: Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:59:47 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-153 Re: Anneka. I'm not the one who believes whatever I want to believe, that would be you. I'm the one with a lack of belief. And you continue you use faith and trust as if they are the same words and they are not. Faith is belief without evidence. Trust is belief with evidence. I trust my car to start tomorrow because it started today. Having faith in a car to start that you've never seen before would be stupid. You need to read my site from the beginning, by the time you make it back to this article you might be an atheist. Are you strong enough for that challenge? Click the first entry in my Blogroll in the sidebar. Re: Anneka. I’m not the one who believes whatever I want to believe, that would be you. I’m the one with a lack of belief. And you continue you use faith and trust as if they are the same words and they are not.

Faith is belief without evidence.
Trust is belief with evidence.

I trust my car to start tomorrow because it started today. Having faith in a car to start that you’ve never seen before would be stupid.

You need to read my site from the beginning, by the time you make it back to this article you might be an atheist. Are you strong enough for that challenge?

Click the first entry in my Blogroll in the sidebar.

]]> By: Anneka http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-152 Anneka Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:49:45 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-152 im not offended you can believe whatever you believe do what you like,will it benefit me if you became a christian not alot.i care about people but they do what they like i cant do things for them i cant do anythin. i cant have a relationship with god for someone so i ent offended.but i cant understand how u cant have faith in anything,how can you love someone and not trust them?how can you not trust the person you marry,but yeh im happy as i am thanks and i make my own decisions n do what i like. i drink, i go clubbin and im no saint.i dont read my bible barely at all so how you could think im being controlled i really dont know. but ye ta for the chat im not offended you can believe whatever you believe do what you like,will it benefit me if you became a christian not alot.i care about people but they do what they like i cant do things for them i cant do anythin. i cant have a relationship with god for someone so i ent offended.but i cant understand how u cant have faith in anything,how can you love someone and not trust them?how can you not trust the person you marry,but yeh im happy as i am thanks and i make my own decisions n do what i like. i drink, i go clubbin and im no saint.i dont read my bible barely at all so how you could think im being controlled i really dont know. but ye ta for the chat

]]> By: Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:29:48 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-151 Re: Anneka. Sorry to be offensive but I'm the one who's been where you are and now I know better. You've not been been where I have, otherwise you wouldn't be posting garbage like "give your life to christ". I don't have faith in anything. Faith is a useless and dangerous tool. God is not real, god is a made up tool to control people thousands of years ago and people still believe that garbage today. Scary how stupid people can be. Re: Anneka. Sorry to be offensive but I’m the one who’s been where you are and now I know better. You’ve not been been where I have, otherwise you wouldn’t be posting garbage like “give your life to christ”.

I don’t have faith in anything. Faith is a useless and dangerous tool.

God is not real, god is a made up tool to control people thousands of years ago and people still believe that garbage today. Scary how stupid people can be.

]]> By: Anneka http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-150 Anneka Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:10:10 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-150 until you give your life to christ you wont fully understand who god is and what it means to be a christian, im not t,total i go out after 12 at night i dont do anythin different to what you do in your life as an atheist,i put limits on things yes but im not perfect and slip up but i know whats better for me but until you have an encounter with the living god you cant say he doesnt exist. i can understand you i cn sympathise because iv been where you have but you havent been where i have. god isnt a feeling hes real. until you truly look into who god is and try to find him you'll never fully understand. if you look for god if you look to find him you will. trust is the same as faith. you trust the people you love.without trust life is meaningless.. u trust that wen u turn the light switch on that the electricity will reach the bulb and turn it on.and you are supprised if it doesnt come on(ie when the bulbs gone)you trust the fact ur car will take u places..you trust your family that they will look after you if anything happens. and when you put your trust in those things..then the rewards come..if you didnt nothing would work..if you didnt trust your car to work you'd walk everywhere.. but you know when you turn the egnition the engine will start.and because i hav faith because i trust in god he reveals himself to me more than in the every day creation all around me. of course emotions can get the better of us but untl you have a relationship with god you honestly wont know the difference between god and a feeling. until you give your life to christ you wont fully understand who god is and what it means to be a christian, im not t,total i go out after 12 at night i dont do anythin different to what you do in your life as an atheist,i put limits on things yes but im not perfect and slip up but i know whats better for me but until you have an encounter with the living god you cant say he doesnt exist.
i can understand you i cn sympathise because iv been where you have but you havent been where i have. god isnt a feeling hes real. until you truly look into who god is and try to find him you’ll never fully understand. if you look for god if you look to find him you will. trust is the same as faith. you trust the people you love.without trust life is meaningless.. u trust that wen u turn the light switch on that the electricity will reach the bulb and turn it on.and you are supprised if it doesnt come on(ie when the bulbs gone)you trust the fact ur car will take u places..you trust your family that they will look after you if anything happens. and when you put your trust in those things..then the rewards come..if you didnt nothing would work..if you didnt trust your car to work you’d walk everywhere.. but you know when you turn the egnition the engine will start.and because i hav faith because i trust in god he reveals himself to me more than in the every day creation all around me.
of course emotions can get the better of us but untl you have a relationship with god you honestly wont know the difference between god and a feeling.

]]> By: Caio http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-149 Caio Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:38:54 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-149 Hi from Brazil.. This is a tricky subject.Feelings will never lie.They can spring from a fantastic and fictional fact or situation but the deep sensation they bring is true.I mean you can be real happy for a thing that do not exist and truly worried about a thing that do not exist either.Your feelings will not be deceiving you but your opinion would.So for you reality would be another thing than the one i am talking about.I mean..in my point of view of what´s true.What? Hi from Brazil..
This is a tricky subject.Feelings will never lie.They can spring from a fantastic and fictional fact or situation but the deep sensation they bring is true.I mean you can be real happy for a thing that do not exist and truly worried about a thing that do not exist either.Your feelings will not be deceiving you but your opinion would.So for you reality would be another thing than the one i am talking about.I mean..in my point of view of what´s true.What?

]]> By: Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:47:16 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-145 rockinmomma, You're welcome, I too found information in there that I had not recognized from anywhere else. rockinmomma, You’re welcome, I too found information in there that I had not recognized from anywhere else.

]]> By: rockinmomma http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-144 rockinmomma Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:40:53 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-144 Yes...always investigate. I'm reading that skeptics bible and it's quite interesting...It hasn't changed my belief in God but it is quite intriguing...thanks for sharing it Yes…always investigate. I’m reading that skeptics bible and it’s quite interesting…It hasn’t changed my belief in God but it is quite intriguing…thanks for sharing it

]]> By: dewde http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-136 dewde Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:22:22 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-136 If I was certain, I wouldn't have asked. Sorry man. peace|dewde If I was certain, I wouldn’t have asked.

Sorry man.

peace|dewde

]]> By: Brett http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Brett Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:32:24 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-135 Aye, one shouldn't trust to *just* feelings and intuition, because it's only half of your mental capacity. It's not the full picture. Aye, one shouldn’t trust to *just* feelings and intuition, because it’s only half of your mental capacity. It’s not the full picture.

]]> By: Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Rob Jones "Brand New Atheist" Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:26:33 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-134 Come on, you don't really think I meant that do you? The answer is no. I was simply suggesting exploring a few things without emotions and feelings. You may learn something. Come on, you don’t really think I meant that do you? The answer is no. I was simply suggesting exploring a few things without emotions and feelings. You may learn something.

]]> By: dewde http://brandnewatheist.com/2008/10/21/dont-trust-your-feelings-because-they-will-lie-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-133 dewde Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:22:53 +0000 http://brandnewatheist.com/?p=67#comment-133 Do you assert that emotions should be disregarded in all cases? Or just matters of divine investigation? Curious. peace|dewde dewde.com Do you assert that emotions should be disregarded in all cases? Or just matters of divine investigation?

Curious.

peace|dewde
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